@dean, if you genuinely think they'll be able to replace the likes of nonu, mccaw, messam, Conrad smith then you clearly don't know rugby

Wales will try but ultimately come second

Exactly . Wales are ******

Nz will just replace the retired players, if anyone thinks they will be weaker because of that.. You clearly don't know NZ rugby, its not their first rodeo.

True but when have you ever seen New Zealand play bad . Especially on their home turf . Plus they still got a lot of their old squad in the mix aswell as the same coach .

Players like sam cane and charlie nghati are decent players but not international standard yet

But logistically NZ are going to be significantly weaker in a number of positions such as 6,7 and 12